Wednesday, 1 September 2010

Vintage dating

Vintage romance at the click of a mouse?

I am always initially surprised when I meet someone alternative who has a partner who is conventional in appearance. I say ‘appearance’ because they can turn out to be as mad as a bag of cats once you get to know them. Appearance is, of course not everything, shared interests, attitudes and downright magnetic attraction play a part. But, at the end of the day, is it better to end up with a man or woman from the same ‘scene’?

This begs the question of whether there are disadvantages to leaving the fold and ending up with someone who does not share your interests? The cynical might answer that simply by being male they have all kinds of bizarre alien tendencies. And men seem to think we all pick on ‘em, despite being the gentle creatures we really are. The answer seems to come down to whether they get ‘it’ rather than style. A fifties style Betty with a skate dude may work because they are both involved in a subculture. Vintage forums however often detail the travails of being with someone who doesn’t get it. This seems to be particularly confusing not to mention worrying in the case of a man who pursues a vintage minx and then claims not to like her ‘old-fashioned’ hair. Surely he noticed you reminded him of his ‘nan’ when he first met you? Even worse is the man who insists on saying he likes the ‘natural’ look and winces at red lips and foundation. It is nice that a person likes you scrubbed and bare but that they should not like you without the slap? Understandable in the case of a tangoed Jordan wannabee but not in relation to a woman who loves old-fashioned glamour. The bleating request for ladies to look fresh and the comments in magazines about girlfriends looking sexiest when wearing their partner’s old shirts makes me squirm. Of course the irony is that these so called natural girls are often higher maintenance than us, just look at Jennifer Aniston.


Psychologists claim that men like make up less women because they look more ‘girlish, younger and fertile’. Hmm, the feminist in me adds, ‘vulnerable, controllable and docile’. Vintage ladies adore being in control of their image and to be honest none of the retro-centric women I know are doormats. Perhaps, because vintage, and indeed all sub-cultural people stand out, men in particular feel vulnerable to embarrassment and comment as they are particularly prone to peer pressure and how the lads view their romantic partners. I can understand this just a little if their utterly conventional miss morphs into a Dita von Teese in front of their eyes. If they were sensible they’d be delighted but change is difficult. Many couples split up for example when one of them loses weight.

I personally find there are real advantages to sharing life with someone who at least to some degree shares your vintage tastes. My partner and I do not like exactly the same things (cricket?..yawn!) but we can rely on often wanting to go to the same places and events. Moreover when you meet a vintage partner’s friends you are more likely to get on with them and should it get to a ‘meet the parents’ stage you are also unlikely to horrify them. Once living together the idea of buying a wooden-globe cocktail cabinet will not cause major rifts. There will be no arguments over what music to play as neither person would darken their Itunes play list with rap or grime. Conflicts when they arise are amusingly vintage: the washing of delicate silks, the boyfriend’s flat is infested with moths or when drunk she covers his clothes with Mac’s Ruby Woo. Then there is the time he couldn’t walk for a week after spearing his foot with a heated roller clip and whether that cocktail should really contain egg white or not. Also, vitally, a vintage chap will never ever shame you by rolling up in front of your friends in a pair of Nikes, cargo pants and t-shirt with a picture of a monkey on it. This arguable narrowness of artistic taste is reflected by a wideness and liberality of attitude. I very rarely meet a homophobic, racist, sexist, fascist vintage type; all qualities that are relationship deal breakers for me.

The problem is that it is difficult enough to find a romantic partner anywhere, let alone a vintage romantic partner, especially if you don’t live in a big city. There are events but you can end up being a gooseberry, or perhaps you’d rather just have fun with friends. This post was prompted by the announcement of a new, UK based website for finding vintage/retro orientated dates and friends called FromHere2 Eternity. This could be a good solution for some. I know the people behind it are reputable and it is currently free whilst being beta tested. This kind of thing depends on the people who take it up but the site makes it completely clear in both text and visual design exactly who it is aimed at. It's strap line reads:

'Welcome to the worlds' first vintage dating site. Specially designed for lovers of rockabilly, swing dance, re-enactment, burlesque, tattoos, vintage lifestyles and anything with a vintage flavour.'

On-line dating and internet formed relationships once had a tarnished feel but no more, I know of several people including my self who would not have met their other halves without strolling along the interwebular boulevard. Also as the vintage world can be tight knit I think any iffy individuals would soon be discovered. I’m not single but I am horribly, horribly curious about how you would word a vintage lonely heart? Heres my effort:

‘flame haired forty-something female non-smoker and good time gal seeks hat wearing gentleman with gsoh and a moustache for nights on the town. Must love dogs. Interests include 20’s, 30’s and 40’s art and design. Enjoys swing music and cocktail shaking. Could you be the one to make my pin-curls curl and my victory rolls roll? No cat owners, vegetarians, Tories or trainer wearers. Time wasters welcome!’.

How would you describe yourself on a vintage dating site? Comments are as ever welcome especially if you decide to give this site a whirl!





11 comments:

Katie Chutzpah said...

Oh Min. *sighs* Where would I even start? Still glad I look red Guerlain lipstick smeared and fiery auburn haired rather than an extra from Hollyoaks. But, hey, you know men. Now where did I put my St Tropez... ;-)

Straight Talking Mama! said...

So great that there is now a vintage dating site I hope it works out. I certainly don't think that I could be married to (or date) someone who didn't understand, plus quite frankly I find men who dress in a 50's style attractive!!

I do know of only 1 couple that were 'mixed' that did work out they are happily married to this day but I also know there has been a lot of compromise along the way, I personally don't do well with compromise ;o)

vintagedoortodoor said...

A a male Vintage lover & I suppose a bit of a Mod, I struggled with numerous girls over the years who just "didn't get it" also! Their strange looks at the amount of cuff links I obviously needed, collar pins, tie pins, tailors arm bands, pairs of shoes! And I despaired, bless them when they came round & said " oh I picked you up a shirt today", because obviously I didn't fancy looking like I worked for Foxtons estate agents though didn't want to sound ungrateful so "ah thanks honey!" I would reply.

So I can see your point & a year ago I decided only to date a Vintage lover & working in Vintage helped although it was on Plenty Of Fish I met my other half 10 months ago who designs 50's inspired jewellery and loves all my links & pins!

A Vintage dating site would've been the first port of call though, a top idea & wish them great success!

Krista Jeanne said...

The idea of Torquil appearing anywhere in a pair of Nikes, cargo pants and t-shirt with a picture of a monkey on it seriously gives me the giggles.

Stefanie Valentine said...

My fiance isn't into dressing 40s/50s but he's a huge psychobilly fan, loves rock n roll and doesn't mind when I put on my big band music. He dresses quite scruffy, and used to be more gothy, but he understands me and my love of vintage. And he buys me lots of lovely vintage goodies so what more do I need?!
I've never dated a 'normal person' though, it would just be too odd for me. And I hate trainers, yuck!

b. said...

It's funny, because most of the times when I walk out the door, I am dressed up to the nines {although not nessicarily of an era} and he's in jeans, sneakers and trainers... But he does dress up for me on the big events, so y'know, it's alright with me that we often look mismatched!

I guess it depends on whether or not you can live the other person's lifestyle choices...

xox,
bonita of Depict This!

Lisa said...

I had a look at the site and it appears to only have one member so far. I'll keep looking though, its certainly time for me to get back on the market. :-)

Laura-Jo said...

I think a vintage dating site is an amazing idea!
I am currently struggling to find someone to share my interests with.
For example i went on a night out the weekend with pin curls etc and people looked at me like i had dropped from the sky lol!
I love vintage fashion, 1940s! Music, ideals and even my little figaro car (which i collect in 3 days and im bursting with excitement)

I would love to meet someone who i could share my interests with :)

Becky Buckle said...

Oh, a vintage dating website! I may need to investigate!
Recently split after a series of horrendous events, I realised I need someone more like me- not the wannabe chelsea boy that hated my individuality, creativeness and possibly my existence.
I love the vintage chap look, a good twiddled 'tache, a trim set of tweeds and a poised arm, ready to link up to. If he comes with a dog that just a bonus.
I just hope those vintage laddo's out there like the look of me too.

Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to the site? It sounds great but appears to be gone?

datin in north carolina said...

Relationship is passion, love and romance with someone.I want a confidence strong man because I am a man.Treat me like a man and I will make you my angle of love.

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